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Cheiron



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Just a little curious question Reply with quote

Hm... sitting here trying to update my HTML knowledge with Thomas A. Powell: The Complete Reference. HTML & XHTML. Fourth Edition.

...and got curious about um... this site is in HTML 4.01? (transitional).
I notice the coding is not xhtml kosher... like <br> is used instead of <br />... etc..
Just wondering if xhtml applies at all in current use out there or people generally just still are at HTML 4.01 ? ... lots of savvy folks out there so thought I'd ask here what the generel drift is today?

Reason I ask is that I wanna update my website and make it standards ok, but not sure if I should go xhtml or what?

I also have noticed...much to my regret.. that some old javascripts I made are not working in say Firefox (well nailed that down to Microsoft and some of their stuff not standards compliant).

So... any thoughts, opinions, advice?

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your referring to the HTML used in the MadWolf pages, it's a matter of priorities. I change things as I come across them, but making the site wholly compatible with the latest "standards" isn't a high priority until something breaks mostly because of everything else I need to get done too.

If I had money and the staff bandwidth, I might assign someone to go through and clean things up in a more consistent fashion. I think you'll find that holds true for many sites. Just to much to do and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Just for my 2 cents worth, I'd focus more on user satisfaction and search ranking (in that order) than technical details.
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Cheiron



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no critique meant, I was just in doubt because I am no expert... a lot of you guys in forum are, and it is big work... even for my pesky website, to rewamp it from 1998 coding to today "standards"... as you say in quotes.

But you answered indirectly, thanks Scots.

PS: well ranking and user satisfaction... let me get to work at that after I have made the place working again technically....ok?... that is the workorder I think Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None taken Cheiron, just saying how I approach it.

The reason I put standards in quotes is this 300 pound guerilla named Microsoft that still dominates the browser market so there wind up being "standards" and what actually works.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Web Site Reply with quote

These dynamic web pages here at Madwolf are a great incentive for all to learn PHP/MySql and would enhance what can be done in your Manor. Which I sure don’t see around anymore. Sad

HTML is more forgiving , but whether coding in HTML or XHTML it may just be best to always include the optional labels within an HTML document rather than remembering which labels can be omitted. I have always thought <br> had no content so why not.

On the same topic, Adobe has been criticized for neglecting to optimize its products on non-Microsoft platforms. This has led to poor web surfing performance on Macs and Linux computers, since so many websites use Flash animations for menus and razzle dazzle. Of course Adobe claims Flash reaches 97.3% of desktop Internet users.
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